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Moorehouse
October 5th, 2009, 03:34 PM
Now including an additional note about the creative editing of the Lane Kiffin Show

http://www.timesnews.net/article.php?id=9017382

wagee12
October 5th, 2009, 05:22 PM
Good job Moorehouse, you're now up for an award of merit here. You could have added that the last touchdown was not only meaningless, but also that D. Moore made a rather spectacular leaping, twisting catch on a ball that was thrown into double coverage!!!

BJVOL II
October 5th, 2009, 05:46 PM
Moorehouse
Do you think JC starts for the last time against Ga if he has a bad showing and Kiffin will take the break week to get Stephens ready to start again Ala or even the following week against SC?

SoftballVol
October 5th, 2009, 06:07 PM
Good job Moorehouse, you're now up for an award of merit here. You could have added that the last touchdown was not only meaningless, but also that D. Moore made a rather spectacular leaping, twisting catch on a ball that was thrown into double coverage!!!
I thought that JC's pass on that play was perfect. It may have been into double coverage but it was after all a desperation play anyway. He threw it to the only possible spot it could have been caught. It was a great catch by Moore to boot. Please explain to me why the WRs and JC couldn't connect on virtually every other pass JC threw all night season.

Moorehouse
October 5th, 2009, 06:32 PM
Moorehouse
Do you think JC starts for the last time against Ga if he has a bad showing and Kiffin will take the break week to get Stephens ready to start again Ala or even the following week against SC?

Nope. At thi point, I think he sticks with Crompton barring injury.

wagee12
October 5th, 2009, 06:52 PM
I thought that JC's pass on that play was perfect. It may have been into double coverage but it was after all a desperation play anyway. He threw it to the only possible spot it could have been caught. It was a great catch by Moore to boot. Please explain to me why the WRs and JC couldn't connect on virtually every other pass JC threw all night season.

They can't catch balls thrown behind them and they can't catch balls thrown three feet over their heads. Last year when Stephens was playing, Rogers, Taylor, Cisco Kidd and Stocker all dropped passes thrown right in their bread baskets. Because of the very poor accuracy of Crompton, when they do have a catchable ball and don't hang on, it is magnified considerably. I remember watching the entire Georgia game in St. Louis on the tube last year when my daughter was up there on recruiting trip. There were at least four good passes dropped by receivers.

Moorehouse
October 5th, 2009, 06:54 PM
The passes may not be dead on the money, but a lot of them were catchable.

A good receiver should be capable of catching a less-than-perfect ball.

OldBill41
October 5th, 2009, 07:54 PM
If he sticks with Crompton past the point where a bowl game ceases to be a mathematical possibility, it makes absolutely no sense. At that point 6 wins are impossible and the season is totally in the crapper. Why continue with an ineffective senior, when there is a junior on the roster who could use the game reps for teaching and at least become a more effective back-up for 2010?

SoftballVol
October 5th, 2009, 09:37 PM
If he sticks with Crompton past the point where a bowl game ceases to be a mathematical possibility, it makes absolutely no sense. At that point 6 wins are impossible and the season is totally in the crapper. Why continue with an ineffective senior, when there is a junior on the roster who could use the game reps for teaching and at least become a more effective back-up for 2010?
That's an excellent point. Surely both Stephens and Lamasil didn't both make passes at Layla.

tebowisgay
October 5th, 2009, 11:40 PM
The biggest hack job is your article you fucking assbag. Oh Jeez the passing game sucks, they edit the Lane show. You are writing nothing which might encourage the CLK regime. NOTHING. You are a goddam Fulmerista. You hang out in our chat, Oh I might use that in my piece. Change your name to Griff retard. Take your article and jam it up your miscolored bearded ass you fuckwad piece of shit.

Moorehouse
October 6th, 2009, 12:45 AM
You're just mad cause I don't cheer in the press box, tig.

SonofGryllus
October 6th, 2009, 07:38 AM
If Crompton is absolutely horrible Saturday, Stephens will split practice in the off-week. Then the determination will be made about the rest of the year. If a switch is made, JC will never see meaningful action again.

My guess is, though, that Crompton will do a little bit better against Georgia. They are probably not much better than Auburn against the pass.

Moore and Jones are finally getting it together a little. Maybe Hancock will be a little more confident this week (has to be tough playing with a broken jaw and hearing footsteps). I only saw 1 pass thrown to Teague last week, and I don't remember more than a couple of passes being thrown to Nukeese all year. More throws to those two and Brown and Oku would help Crompton.

msvolfan
October 6th, 2009, 09:51 AM
If Crompton is absolutely horrible Saturday, Stephens will split practice in the off-week. Then the determination will be made about the rest of the year. If a switch is made, JC will never see meaningful action again.

My guess is, though, that Crompton will do a little bit better against Georgia. They are probably not much better than Auburn against the pass.

Moore and Jones are finally getting it together a little. Maybe Hancock will be a little more confident this week (has to be tough playing with a broken jaw and hearing footsteps). I only saw 1 pass thrown to Teague last week, and I don't remember more than a couple of passes being thrown to Nukeese all year. More throws to those two and Brown and Oku would help Crompton.



It would be nice to see Crompton attempt more passes in direction of Teague or Nukeese. Don't see that happening though. The tighter JC's azz gets the more he locks onto one or two receivers.

gallavol
October 6th, 2009, 02:25 PM
Actually, I thought JC, although not great (not even good) had his best game of the season against AUB. I know that is like saying ,"the best Mexican wine" but still he was better, not nearly as many worm burners. If the receivers had caught all the balls that hit them in the hands it would have been a pretty good night for the QB position. I do wonder why Nuke takes one snap for 41 yards and never lines in the backfield again. At this point I don't think Stephens ever sees the field this season. Still don't know why.

SoftballVol
October 6th, 2009, 03:23 PM
Actually, I thought JC, although not great (not even good) had his best game of the season against AUB. I know that is like saying ,"the best Mexican wine" but still he was better, not nearly as many worm burners. If the receivers had caught all the balls that hit them in the hands it would have been a pretty good night for the QB position. I do wonder why Nuke takes one snap for 41 yards and never lines in the backfield again. At this point I don't think Stephens ever sees the field this season. Still don't know why.
Galla is right again. As much as it pains me to watch JC play it wouldn't be fair or honest not to admit that he has improved. He's still terrible but he's not as terrible. I still think he's so terrible that no one else on the roster could possibly be worse and I'd sure like to see someone else get a shot to prove me wrong or right. Most of all I don't understand why CLK hasn't made a better attempt at explaining his logic behind playing JC. Not because he personally owes me an explanation but because he's pretty good about explaining his logic on plenty of other things. When it comes to the QB position he's unusually silent. I think it would be to his benefit to explain himself. By not doing so it lets any number of other people attempt to put words in his mouth with explanations such as "he's doing it for recruiting" (which if true actually hurts recruiting because it sends the message that you might be benched even if you deserve to play if the coach thinks it will help him recruit someone to replace you) or "Stephens has a bad attitude or looks terrible in practice" (CLK and Reaves keep saying that's not true). Address the issue head on please.

sgvolfan
October 6th, 2009, 07:13 PM
cause it was a frakin accident

Smokeys Marauders
October 8th, 2009, 10:32 AM
I am confused as to why there has not been evena series or two with Stephens since the opener as well, but I will agree that on a scale of 1-10, JC has now improved to a 0, which is much better than last year, the throws are closer to the feet backs and earholes, more scrambles are ALMOST getting to the line of scrimmage and the balls that are thrown away are trown with less look-offs at the recievers and more directly into the stands.

But seriously he does look better here lately and the recievers are doing worse, better to what is the question, I am going to hold on to the fact that this tells me the coaches can coach up a player better than the guys we had.

Bottom line is everyone wants to look at Auburn and say they are 5-0 with a fired coach and we are 2-3 witha fired coach, why it that and we shouldn't be that way.

CTT left UA with MUCH more talent and HE left cause they keep going behind his back, but the team was there and the recruits, we on the other hand hand a deep rooted complaicency (sp?) and barely go 1.5 deep at most positions. Look at how many spots were earned by former wlak-ons, and I don't think the line about open compition and Kiffin running off guys will fly on the walk0ons making it every time, the talent is WAY down period, hurts to say but VERY true.