WTF is Tyler Johnson?

[GhenghisVol]

And what is this little prick doing telling Kiffin he's going to have to "reign in" recruiting expenses for next year?


According to Johnson, Kiffin will have tighter restraints in the future, beginning in 2009-10.

"Here is your recruiting budget dollar amount," Johnson said, outlining how Kiffin will be expected to handle expenses. "Make your spending work within this number."

In other words, work within a budget.

"If that means their staff chooses to stay in cheaper hotels and fly more on commercial flights (instead of using UT's private planes) to allow for allocations of funds to be used elsewhere in the recruiting process, then that is up to them," Johnson said.

That is horseshit, and those of you who can call Mike Hamilton and have him return your calls needs to speak up on this nonsense. Kiffico is going to bring in millions upon millions of additional revenue, his staff does not need to be nor is it going to be restrained by stupid accounting practices like this. I'll blow up fucking NAY-land Stadium before I stand by and allow the recruiting budget to be fucked with. Dumbasses!

http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2009/jun/06/another-1-million-signing-class/

[wagee12]

Tyler Johnson is a bean counter on Hammy's staff. His official title is Associate Athletics Director for Business/Internal Affairs. There are obviously ways around his jibberish, particularly in the area of aircraft.
My question is, how did they dig this geek up?

[Chatta Vol]

Shit, can you imagine how pissed O will be when he see the budget for his Red Bull? lol

Kidding but also making a point....they can't expect them to, in Ed's words, we'll be up before dawn and go to bed late, you WON"T out work us.....and then turn around and tell them "yeah, we wanna be great but you gotta quit spending" Now if they have went MIIIIIILES over budget i can understand.

Plus, I'm guessing a few boosters will settle this matter. ;)

I really see this as more of a shot across the bow, a starting point for a negotiation.....We'll be fine.

I'd say the bean counters were just a little shocked at the bottom line. Remember, these guys are hitting it a low harder than Fulmers crew were.

"Why do you need 20 state of the art hand held digital camera for and 20 cases of memory cards? Fulmers group didn't need them? Why do you need 30 more laptops?...." and on and on.....i'd say the star up cost for this years crew will be a little less next year.

And like someone said in this thread, they'll find ways to cut back if they have to.....they'll find a compromise.

But again, they're prolly a little shell shocked at the number "they can't REALLY be recruiting that hard, can they?"

[humbletx]

And what is this little prick doing telling Kiffin he's going to have to "reign in" recruiting expenses for next year?



That is horseshit, and those of you who can call Mike Hamilton and have him return your calls needs to speak up on this nonsense. Kiffico is going to bring in millions upon millions of additional revenue, his staff does not need to be nor is it going to be restrained by stupid accounting practices like this. I'll blow up fucking NAY-land Stadium before I stand by and allow the recruiting budget to be fucked with. Dumbasses!

http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2009/jun/06/another-1-million-signing-class/

ROI baby - lots of Div1 programs and losing money - lots of money. Bringing in millions and millions of additional revenue from where - and how will this impact his coaching?

Tennessee's revenue numbers (forget for a moment the important making money part of the business) is in the 88 million dollar range - with football being the big rain maker... how does generate an additional 3 to 5%?

Anyway I recall some goob yappin' about recruiting and how Tennessee would be better off signing some 3 star kid from the state than some 3 star kid from Cali... Remember who that was? :nana:

[wagee12]

A few thoughts here:
1. The author of the piece, the Tuba Player, is a non-athlete and a big pussy who needs a number 12 boot stuck up his fat ass.
2. The money spent on recruiting looks like a huge bargain to me. By my rough calculations, when you factor in total salary and buyout, PhilsVeryDoughBoy earned a cool 1.8 million dollars per victory last year.
3. As long as the athletics department is self sustaining, I could care less how much money they spend on recruiting. At least these guys were recruiting and not sitting in a Platinum Plus somewhere on UT's dime.
4. There are certain members of the so-called media in Knoxville who want to see Lane Kiffin fail. They don't seem to be able to realize that ButtBoy ain't coming back even if Kiffin doesn't succeed.

[aadicof]

We could let 'em use the OM jet:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j148/utchuckd/omjetint.jpg

[GhenghisVol]

Yeah, I do and thats not the point.

[GhenghisVol]

Damn AD, thats AWESOmE!!!!!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: New header material.

[humbletx]

Yeah, I do and thats not the point.

Ya - nothing like goin' "old school" recruiting wise... Which is the point...

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2009/06/05/tennessee-has-187-offers-to-2010-prospects-but-can-only-sign-28/

Fulmer used the same approach - and was rightfully vilified for that..

the point - athletics is a business and Kiffin is running it just like the guy he replaced..

[GhenghisVol]

Yeah, but the difference is the ability to size up the talent, and turning over every rock to find the undiscovered gems like we're seeing in the 2010 class.

[SonofGryllus]

3. As long as the athletics department is self sustaining, I could care less how much money they spend on recruiting. At least these guys were recruiting and not sitting in a Platinum Plus somewhere on UT's dime.


Exactly. And maybe even more pointed, as long as the football program is funding the rest of the athletic dept., shut up!

[GhenghisVol]

Exactly, if they start forcing these guys to manage a friggin budget for the most crucial aspect of the program we are in trouble, and will be much less effective. I cant believe Hamilton allowed that prick to make these remarks in public. I'm sure this doesnt sit well with Ogre and company.

[DeerPark]

Tyler Johnson is a bean counter on Hammy's staff. His official title is Associate Athletics Director for Business/Internal Affairs. There are obviously ways around his jibberish, particularly in the area of aircraft.
My question is, how did they dig this geek up?

They didn;t dig him up, he's worked in the department for almost 20 years. He's not a bean counter, either, that would be Bill Meyers, the CFO. Johnson is in charge of overseeing the administrators that are in charge of each sport.

He's not saying that the football staff is going to be limited, simply that they aren't going to have the blank check that they were given this year to play catch up with. The staff has always had what most schools would consider a very generous recruiting budget, and certianly will in the future.

Tennessee Football is a business, and no business allows one of its departments to run around with uncapped spending. Each area has a budget, and must ask for permission to exceed that budget.

But you can bet your ass that if Kiffin says they need some additional money to land a top guy late in the recruiting season, then they'll get it. The people that oversee the department get it, they're sports guys, not bean counters.

[ONUV]

recruiting is the most important part of our football program. they bring in a staff who are great recruiters. now they tell them to reign in spending?

do the women's sports bring in any money or is everything separate?

[SonofGryllus]

Ya - nothing like goin' "old school" recruiting wise... Which is the point...

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2009/06/05/tennessee-has-187-offers-to-2010-prospects-but-can-only-sign-28/

Fulmer used the same approach - and was rightfully vilified for that..

the point - athletics is a business and Kiffin is running it just like the guy he replaced..

The problem with a lot of these bloggers is that they understand things less than most of the people reading the blogs. I am sorry but that blog is so poorly done that it is embarassing. But maybe that is the difference between a blog and an article. A real journalist would have done some interviews to ask:

1. How the process generally works
2. Specifically to CLK and O- "Why have you offered so many scholarships?

Info for the first question would have been readily attained, number 2 might have been obtainable. If he had gotten that information, his blog would be worth reading. Here is what would make a blog piece on recruiting readable:

1. You sent out several waves of offers, were those based solely on the ability of players you had reviewed, or were they based on need?
2. How does your "big board" work? Is it based solely on the ability of the players, or do you move people up and down based on your perception of their "getability?"
3. Some of the offer/commitments you have are from guys who might be considered second tier recruits. How do you compare a guy like Pat Harris to JR Ferguson or Kelcy Quarles?
4. Do the scholarship offers have a time limit on them? How does that figure into the equation?

There are these and many, many, more questions that a journalist could ask that would make the article worth reading.

[Snowvol]

The ESPN deal deal is worht what to each school? Isn't it somehwere in the neighborhood of 15 million per school per year. That will begin this season. That extra money will cover anything Coach wants to do recruiting wise. Mr. Johnson needs to be taking over and dropped off and Phats house in Maryville and left there with him!!

[DeerPark]

The ESPN deal deal is worht what to each school? Isn't it somehwere in the neighborhood of 15 million per school per year. That will begin this season. That extra money will cover anything Coach wants to do recruiting wise. Mr. Johnson needs to be taking over and dropped off and Phats house in Maryville and left there with him!!

The ESPN money is earmarked for capital projects, not the general recruiting budget.

UT isn't asking Kiffin to cut corners, just to work within a reasonable budget like every other school in the country, and just like coaching staffs at UT always have.

[GhenghisVol]

Not the point, why is this an ISSUE with KNS reporting detailed recruiting expenses for the first time ever? Recruiting expenses for the period have been higher under Flummo, why all of a sudden the big fuss? We're missing a piece of the story.

[VolFrannie]

It was a big deal cause until the ESPN hit pieced aired KNS didn't have anything else to report on for yesterday's paper. So, they blather about something of little consequence.

[DeerPark]

Not the point, why is this an ISSUE with KNS reporting detailed recruiting expenses for the first time ever? Recruiting expenses for the period have been higher under Flummo, why all of a sudden the big fuss? We're missing a piece of the story.

As I said in the other thread on this, the KNS parent company, Scripps, is doing stories nationwide in their papers on the "runaway" spending in college athletics. Each of their papers contributed a story with local information. The one from the KNS was far less scathing than some of the others I have read.

The company is going after schools becaus ein most places, the ADs are not self-sufficient as we are here at Tennessee. The implication is that at other places, tax dollars are going to unregulated athletics programs while state employees and teachers are being laid off. Again, that doesn't apply at Tennessee, but the KNS still had to follow the company mandate and look into it.