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BigOrangeT
April 4th, 2009, 03:15 PM
Statistics from Saturday's Tennessee football scrimmage.

Starters

Offense

Jonathan Crompton, Montario Hardesty, Kevin Cooper, Gerald Jones, Quintin Hancock, Jeff Cottam, Cody Pope, Jacques McClendon, Josh McNeil, Jarrod Shaw and Chris Scott

Defense

Wes Brown, Dan Williams, Ben Martin, Chris Walker, Rico McCoy, LaMarcus Thompson, Nick Reveiz, C.J. Fleming, Rod Wilks, Art Evans and Stephaun Raines

STATISTICAL LEADERS

Passing

Name Comp-Att-Int Yds TD

Jonathan Crompton 9-16-1 90 0

B.J. Coleman 17-22-0 112 0

Receiving

Name Rec Yds TD

Denarius Moore 4 45 0

Austin Johnson 4 17 0

Tyler Maples 3 26 0

Toney Williams 3 23 0

Ben Lehning 2 20 0

Tauren Poole 2 12 0

Rushing

Name Rush Yds TD

Toney Williams 14 84 2

Tauren Poole 14 81 1

Montario Hardesty 10 29 1

Quintin Hancock 1 21 0

C.J. Jackson 1 7 1

Defense

Name Tackles TFL Sack Int/PBU FF/FR

Herman Lathers 7 -/- -/- -/- -/-

Derrick Furlow 6 -/- -/- -/- -/-

Rico McCoy 6 -/- -/- -/- -/-

Savion Frazier 5 -/- -/- -/- -/-

Nick Reveiz 5 1/1 -/- -/- -/1

Prentiss Waggner 5 -/- -/- -/- 1/-

Dennis Rogan 4 -/- -/- -/- 1/-

LaMarcus Thompson 4 -/- -/- -/- -/-

Dan Williams 4 -/- -/- -/- -/-

smyrnavol45
April 4th, 2009, 03:34 PM
The real Crompton seems to be coming out now...

real turf fan
April 4th, 2009, 03:51 PM
Are the passing yards coming from short/medium/long passes or a mix up and how well are the receivers getting past the defenders for additional yards?

LWSVOL
April 4th, 2009, 04:20 PM
Are the passing yards coming from short/medium/long passes or a mix up and how well are the receivers getting past the defenders for additional yards?

today was almost all short stuff... way too many fumbles from running backs..

sprty3
April 4th, 2009, 04:24 PM
BJ, Looks more like alot of short passes but it's still better than Crompton. Wonder what the story is with DeMo. LW has said not to put to much faith in him remaining on the team..

FloppyEarsMcGee
April 4th, 2009, 04:32 PM
Any one know what the Hancock 21 yards rushing came on?

An around, reverse or a screen behind the line of scrimmage?

rocketcityvol
April 4th, 2009, 04:39 PM
Don't know what you can glean from scrimmage stats, b/c not being there, no way to know what they're emphasizing, how complex they are etc., etc., but:

No INTs by either qb looks good.

Maples showing up in these stats...need some guys to emerge at receiver.

someone mentioned fumbles...be interesting to know if bad fundamentals by the backs or aggressive play by the defense. Aren't TOs a trademark of MK defenses?

ONUV
April 4th, 2009, 04:39 PM
stephens held out?

wagee12
April 4th, 2009, 05:12 PM
The 1 after Ruff Tuff's yardage total is an interception, not a touchdown pass. This from volquest:

As for the interception, quarterback Jonathan Crompton said he wasn't sure why, but the pick came simply from a poorly thrown ball.

"I under threw him," Crompton said. "I gotta see the film to see if there was something mechanical. I don't really know why, but what I can say is that I definitely under threw him."

BANG
April 4th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Surprise! Crompy had a fumble on a hand-off! That NEVER happens, must have been RB's fault:cowb:

wagee12
April 4th, 2009, 05:46 PM
"I under threw him," Crompton said. "I gotta see the film to see if there was something mechanical.

He needs to view the filmum on the botched hand off as well. This boy just can't cut the mustard and I really hope one of the other two guys takes charge of this deal real soon.

MONVOL FEATURED HIGHLIGHTS
Montori Hughes threw Toney Williams for a two-yard loss.

- Cornerback C. J. Fleming intercepted a Crompton underthrow of Gerald Jones and returned the pick approximately 20 yards.

- Poole recorded back-to-back runs of 21 and 14 yards, advancing the ball from midfield to the defense's 15-yard line.

BANG
April 4th, 2009, 06:03 PM
I swear it looks like Crompy looks up before the give to the rb, it's hard to say for certain based on this video clip.http://www.cstv.com/allaccess/player/06-oas-mediaplayer.html?content=mms://a1981.v8108e.c8108.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1981/8108/v0001/cstvcbs.download.akamai.com/8108/open/tenn/08-09/video/m-footbl/04apr/2009_0404_tpr.wmv&school=tenn&

That's our boy!

VaVol
April 4th, 2009, 06:22 PM
This is one case where I actually want the staff to look at the film of Crompton. It will expose him.

Mr. Tennessee
April 4th, 2009, 06:48 PM
I swear it looks like Crompy looks up before the give to the rb, it's hard to say for certain based on this video clip.http://www.cstv.com/allaccess/player/06-oas-mediaplayer.html?content=mms://a1981.v8108e.c8108.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1981/8108/v0001/cstvcbs.download.akamai.com/8108/open/tenn/08-09/video/m-footbl/04apr/2009_0404_tpr.wmv&school=tenn&

That's our boy!
If you look at the end of the clip they called a reverse!

GhenghisVol
April 4th, 2009, 08:17 PM
When you're 5th year senior QB says he "has to look at the film to see if it was mechanical" you have a real problem.

It is mechanical, and its the gears in his head that are vaporlocked. I also saw Cromton with a "no look" handoff in that clip. Unbelievable.

Montori Hughes is a monster!

BrassVols
April 4th, 2009, 08:30 PM
Williams and Poole both averaging near 6 ypc is some good running or poor tackling. Not bad for a HS senior who should be getting ready to go to his Prom!

Hard to do much better than 17-22 with no picks if it's a given you're working on shorter patterns.

FloppyEarsMcGee
April 4th, 2009, 09:02 PM
I'm taking bets.

J. Crompton even being on the team by years end?

volchef
April 4th, 2009, 09:09 PM
Ghengis, more and more with Crompton, I think it's got something to do with his upbringing. I was always one of those smart people who never had to study much to get by...until I got to University which exposed me for the slacker that I was. I imagine JC always "looked" the part and had enough natural ability to get by and now, it's just too late. A studying deficiency is easily corrected, a practice/athletic one however, is not. I feel a little bad for JC, but yearn for next year when we can just put him behind us. He's just a pity project at this point.

FloppyEarsMcGee
April 5th, 2009, 12:19 AM
Ghengis, more and more with Crompton, I think it's got something to do with his upbringing. I was always one of those smart people who never had to study much to get by...until I got to University which exposed me for the slacker that I was. I imagine JC always "looked" the part and had enough natural ability to get by and now, it's just too late. A studying deficiency is easily corrected, a practice/athletic one however, is not. I feel a little bad for JC, but yearn for next year when we can just put him behind us. He's just a pity project at this point.


Or it could be the what I called the 1-A effect. When I played ball every year, it never failed some kid would come in with some crazy stats. 14 HR's, 60-70 RBI's, 14-0 with a 1.09 ERA. So on, so forth.

Well for some reason every year these kids would end up sucking, getting their tits ripped all over the field. Reason: They played at po-dunk ass shitty high schools and had zero competition. His feelings would get hurt because he never knew how to over come failure and end up quitting.

I'd take an average kid that played in 3-A High School baseball (DB, Science Hill, Tennessee High, etc) over some kid with crazy stats from let say Oakdale or any other small school.

Now you have your ones that succeed, but I've seen the former too many times to count.

I don't know the size or competition that Crompton played against in High School. Anyone fill me in on that?

rocketcityvol
April 5th, 2009, 12:23 AM
The 1 after Ruff Tuff's yardage total is an interception, not a touchdown pass. This from volquest:

As for the interception, quarterback Jonathan Crompton said he wasn't sure why, but the pick came simply from a poorly thrown ball.

"I under threw him," Crompton said. "I gotta see the film to see if there was something mechanical. I don't really know why, but what I can say is that I definitely under threw him."

Thanks for the correction. Sounds like he struggled today.

sprty3
April 5th, 2009, 12:40 AM
Western NC is not a hotbed for high school football...

Big ups for big 9 baseball. Good talent around here and it never gets noticed...We had 4 or 5 pitchers drafted by the majors my Sophmore year back in the 80's

VolFrannie
April 5th, 2009, 02:15 AM
Crompton had a fumble he recovered besides the botched handoff to Williams. The kid just flat out can't handle pressure situations. Some people can, some can't. The excuses for him get more and more amazing though. Has to look the film...what a joke. He under threw a pass, just suck it up, no need to act like it's some aberration.

gatewayghost
April 5th, 2009, 10:50 AM
I noticed on the news highlights where Crompoton let somone sneak behind him and knock the ball out, his lineman recovered. That could have been another turnover along with the dropped int. We got to move B.J. to the #1 QB and let him and Nick compete for the job. Crompton has no talent or even potential. Hearing these stories brings back the horrid memories of last year. Exact same thing. At least he is consistant.

PitiFulmer
April 5th, 2009, 11:30 AM
I haven't been in football mode the last couple months, so please excuse me if it's a dumb question. Is Bryce Brown currently practicing, or does he have some academics to finalize before hitting the field?

TennesseeTuxedo
April 5th, 2009, 12:59 PM
I would not read too much into the averages shown, especially from the QBs. In todays paper, the offensive coaches said that they were calling short pass plays to emphasize ball security and build confidence.

Fumbles are bad news in games and the coaches believe that you will play just as you practice.

volchef
April 5th, 2009, 01:05 PM
I haven't been in football mode the last couple months, so please excuse me if it's a dumb question. Is Bryce Brown currently practicing, or does he have some academics to finalize before hitting the field?

I don't think he's entered school yet, but as far as I know he's qualified. IV should be able to fill you in more. I have been out of the loop myself Aerial. I asked yesterday why Berry wasn't playing. NO question is stupid after mine :)

FloppyEarsMcGee
April 5th, 2009, 03:16 PM
I think the media praise that Kiffin has been giving Crompton comes from the fact that Crompton needs it. His psyche is that frail.

GhenghisVol
April 5th, 2009, 04:03 PM
Yep, thats exactly what Chaney said, "short passing game"

Chaney and Gran also had some choice words about the fumbles...."Not acceptable." I also see we have a new catchphrase making the rounds that even Hubbs is now using re" the running backs...."stick your foot in the ground." That one is pretty funny.

WolfDawg
April 6th, 2009, 12:09 AM
I wasn't there, so my opinion is only superficial, but based on the "stats," the team looks as though there aren't any play-makers on offese. The QB numbers standout as particularly disconcerting. Maybe they were working on something, and not much emphasis was placed on production, so hopefully the Spring Game will show a little more of what the QBs can do. :bomber:

WolfDawg
April 6th, 2009, 12:22 AM
I wasn't there, so my opinion is only superficial, but based on the "stats," the team looks as though there aren't any play-makers on offense. Crompton's numbers standout as particularly disconcerting. Coleman's completion percentage looks great, but of all those receptions at least one WR needs to get in the End Zone. Maybe they were working on something, and not much emphasis was placed on production, so hopefully the Spring Game will show a little more of what the QBs can do, and esp. the RBs. The best way to relieve the pressure on a QB is to keep the down and distance within short passing range to increase his confidence and establish a flow to the offense.

VolFrannie
April 6th, 2009, 12:24 AM
Bryce graduated early, but because he didn't make his decision till late he is not in school. I'm pretty sure he has no academic questions at all and will enroll for summer session. I think I read he had good grades and a pretty high ACT score.

MCVOL
April 6th, 2009, 12:28 AM
Any word on Donald, or is he becoming a non-factor?

IndianVol
April 6th, 2009, 12:28 AM
If you look at the end of the clip they called a reverse!

Yep, and it was a well executed reverse, not a Kenny 'O Neal special

Mr. Tennessee
April 6th, 2009, 01:49 AM
Yep, and it was a well executed reverse, not a Kenny 'O Neal special

I was rather shocked when I saw that.

I am getting this feeling if they get the power running game back at UT, average at worst QB play and top 25 defense this will be a very good year at UT. :cowb:

I am pleased to see the QBs in practice wearing an orange jersey and not a green one.

Needless to say I like what I am seeing out of Knoxville. The players, sans 1 or 2, seem hungry and that is a major ingredient to getting the program back to where it needs to be.

OrangeJammer
April 6th, 2009, 11:22 AM
The team was throwing short stuff by design. Coleman had three drops by the WR's that should have been catches. Coleman could have easily been 20-22.
Coleman is a leader and very smart. Once this offense clicks with him, look for BJ to be a very productive QB.