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Dog of Orangebutt
March 31st, 2009, 12:18 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/magazine/29Dyson-t.html?_r=1


Dyson announced that “all the fuss about global warming is grossly exaggerated.” Since then he has only heated up his misgivings, declaring in a 2007 interview with Salon.com that “the fact that the climate is getting warmer doesn’t scare me at all” and writing in an essay for The New York Review of Books, the left-leaning publication that is to gravitas what the Beagle was to Darwin, that climate change has become an “obsession” — the primary article of faith for “a worldwide secular religion” known as environmentalism. Among those he considers true believers, Dyson has been particularly dismissive of Al Gore, whom Dyson calls climate change’s “chief propagandist,” and James Hansen, the head of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York and an adviser to Gore’s film, “An Inconvenient Truth.” Dyson accuses them of relying too heavily on computer-generated climate models that foresee a Grand Guignol of imminent world devastation as icecaps melt, oceans rise and storms and plagues sweep the earth, and he blames the pair’s “lousy science” for “distracting public attention” from “more serious and more immediate dangers to the planet.”

Polemicvol
March 31st, 2009, 01:15 PM
But he isn't a climate scientist and he does kinda come off as a bit cranky old skeptic of most everything, except for his miracle solutions to complex problems.

He might consider applying the same due dilligence to his own theories, such as "planting vast forests of carbon eating trees" and provide evidence that such a thing is either possible or probable.

This is the guy who worked for the Pentagon and NASA designing spaceships propelled by nuclear bombs. He's somewhat a pie in the sky guy. And to dismiss climate science as "a religion" is silly.

Dog of Orangebutt
March 31st, 2009, 01:37 PM
News to Poley.....All plants "eat" co2. Now whether a vast forest of them would do the trick is debatable...I think not....but then again I don't much care what the co2 levels are.....

WestPointDad
March 31st, 2009, 01:39 PM
But he isn't a climate scientist and he does kinda come off as a bit cranky old skeptic of most everything, except for his miracle solutions to complex problems.



You just described the poster boy for the pro-global warming crowd, Al Gore, to a T. :nutkick:

Dog of Orangebutt
March 31st, 2009, 04:59 PM
In reality, there's no comparison to Al Gore, who's a psuedo scientist who was handled a nobel prize for spreading bad information....and Dyson who probably deserves a nobel prize.

As you might guess, my opinion of the nobel prize is about the same as my opinion of a heisman trophy.

ZippyVol
March 31st, 2009, 09:22 PM
As you might guess, my opinion of the nobel prize is about the same as my opinion of a heisman trophy.

My opinion of that 'prize' is probably worse.

Remember: Yassir fucking Arafat won a Nobel Peace prize for chrissakes. Anyone incapable of admitting the absurdity of such a thing is truly hopeless. The only analogy I can think of that would be even remotely similar to him winning the NPP would have been Johnathan Crompton winning the Heisman. Last year. Just plain stupid.

Polemicvol
March 31st, 2009, 11:49 PM
Of course plants eat CO2. Photosynthesis and what not.

But your boy Dyson believes we will invent monster mutant trees who will suck up CO2 like gigantic vacuum cleaners. And all we have to do is plant vast forests of these trees that don't exist and everthang is just fine.

And he thinks climate science is unsustainable?:nana:

Orangebutt
April 1st, 2009, 07:36 AM
I would love to see the link for that....I'm not saying it's not so, as I have no idea...but I'd be bery bery skeptical that is what he's saying.....

Dog of Orangebutt
April 1st, 2009, 10:03 AM
basically he apparently thinks that the trees can be genetically altered to absorbe much more co2. Frankly I don't think much of this idea, as it's just not nice to play with mother nature.

Again, I don't think co2 has much to with the so called problem anyway.